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If you know what exactly leash, torch or any other unobvious item does - add it please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anothеr (talkcontribs) 05:49, 5 July 2008

I've been using Mani's stone (elona 1.16) for a couple of days now and, while it does change some item's types, rods always get rerolled as rods -erdraug —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.220.20.23 (talkcontribs) 06:47, 29 April 2009

Is the secret treasure (one that gives mutant feat) some kind of set item or does it drop randomly? I never found one myself, and it's only possible to wish for it in wizard mode (normal wishing gives other secret treasures/experiences, usually Lomias). --Enlait 08:03, 17 June 2009 (UTC)


Items I'd like to see added to or linked from this page (or other appropriate place)

--97.65.64.178 12:56, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps the page should also be renamed to "Other items" instead of just "Other? - 81.224.252.220 14:22, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. -Jatopian 03:12, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
Please, do it. ARR8 04:20, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Would like confirmation on whether the Secret experience of Kumiromi drops from monsters. I actually had one drop from a fairy in wizard mode after wolfing down tons of happy apples, but I would like to know if it drops off anything else. 203.218.52.137 14:02, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

Anyone want to include all the new stuff from the Christmas update? (New Year's Gift etc.) I'll just make a note here so I'll remember when it rolls around in my game. RCName 01:17, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Has anyone confirmed that the feat from ekhatl actually does anything?Johndeezy 05:47, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. -- ARR8 22:25, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

Anyone Know how one gets the upstairs/downstairs? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tyler Brogan (talkcontribs) 22:25, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

Holy Night Festival. -- ARR8 22:25, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

Secret experience of Kumiromi[]

I just got one from a fairy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.26.126.143 (talk) 14:36, January 24, 2010

Cursed secret experience of Lomias[]

Lomias dropped a cursed secret experience. When I used it, the message "you have a bad feeling about this..." appears and nothing happens. Is this because the item is cursed, or is this normal? If this is the typical result, what am I supposed to do with this item? 76.15.207.31 06:07, April 21, 2011 (UTC)b

Cursedness of that item makes no difference to its effect. That is the normal result. It causes your child - if you make a gene anytime after using it - to receive the Beggar's Pendant at the start of the game, in an extra scene. -Jatopian 00:33, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Upstairs & Downstairs[]

When playing 1.16fix2b, I can't wish for both "upstairs" and downstairs". Are they only available after the x'mas version, or precious items that can't be wished for?

1.16fix2b is an earlier version than the xmas version. Stair items were introduced in xmas. Upgrade. -98.67.116.253 02:30, August 27, 2011 (UTC)
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